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March 27, 2008 at
Tell me she did not say “if God is a belief, it’s not really God.” She reduces God to a simple feeling. Lord help her. I think I’ll link to this post.
March 27, 2008 at
[...] Church Of Oprah? Posted on March 27, 2008 by LorMarie Heart of Flesh has an eye opening post about Oprah’s views on religion. Apparently, God is in everything [...]
March 27, 2008 at
30 seconds into eternity, oparah will be calling on the God she dont believein.
March 27, 2008 at
She is a heretic with a very large church, if one could really call it that. It just bothers me the way the thought of a personal God near-angers her
March 27, 2008 at
What a load of crockery. I’m not a Christian, or a subscriber to any religion in particular, but I’m also not vulnerable to the ‘woo’, which is exactly what Oprah is selling. Ekhart’s thoughts about what happens after death are laughable. He’s selling a number of propositions with no proof, and people are soaking it in without a thought. But live and let live - as long as their woo doesn’t infringe on my rights and my life.
March 27, 2008 at
Wow; I didn’t realize she had literally started a church. That’s really heartbreaking.
It’s sad how badly she misinterpreted the idea of God’s jealousy. It’s also very sad to think how badly she’s going to regret these decisions one day.
March 27, 2008 at
Wow! She really started a church?!??!
March 28, 2008 at
Man she’s like the female Joel Osteen…except far more dangerous. She has influences over millions of people. I pity her day before God.
March 29, 2008 at
The scary part is the number of people who actually thought she was a Christian up until now. This is not news, but fortunately people are starting to see the truth about her.
March 29, 2008 at
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March 29, 2008 at
For years, I have been warning the congregation which God has put in my charge, to beware of “The Gospel According to Oprah,” because she is deceived into believing that: All good people are going to heaven. That is virtually - in her estimation - everyone who hasn’t raped, pillaged or practiced genocide. She is wrong - dead wrong - the Bible says:”There is none good, no not one,” and the consequences will be eternal for millions of people.
March 29, 2008 at
Whoever made this video is an extremely narrow-minded person, wrapped up in his own ideas and trying to impose them on others. Oprah has not started a church. She is just trying to help people, and knows that what counts are human values. Everyone can understand God the way they want: having faith does not necessarily imply living according to the ideas of any narrow-minded and intolerant church.
(And, just for the record, the largest church in the world is the Catholic Church. Not Oprah.)
March 29, 2008 at
This is a very funny video.
The comments are sad, though. Why are you all so afraid? And why do you care so much about what other people think? Maybe you should just focus on being your best self and let others do the same. Good luck.
March 29, 2008 at
No time to see this, but Oprah is an excellent communicator.
–The Wow Jones Report
http://thewowjonesreport.wordpress.com
March 29, 2008 at
What’s wrong with saying that people vainly try to put God in a box?
March 29, 2008 at
fantastika4021, you say “narrow-minded?” Listen to what the Lord Jesus Christ Himself had to say, “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. Mt 7:13-14, Jesus Christ of Nazareth…there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Ac 4:10-12, Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Jn 14:6
March 29, 2008 at
“He’s selling a number of propositions with no proof, and people are soaking it in without a thought.”
What, you mean like Catholicism and Christianity?
Anyone who thinks that ‘heaven’ is a destination needs to point it out on a map and drive there. And as Tolle notes, he doesn’t give what happens after death any thought. Know why? Because, much like God, what occurs after death is thus far literally beyond our comprehension.
Christianity has become just another form of oppression and terrorism.
March 30, 2008 at
God is not jealous of Ophra. What has she got that He does not have, having created her in the first place? She has so little understanding of Scripture, scant if any theological knowledge, and no authority to speak for Him at all. She claims God is a feeling, not a belief. He is neither. He is far more than either. So this is worship of one’s feelings, essentially worship of self - and ultimately there is no salvation in that.
March 30, 2008 at
Thanks for posting this. Will be using it on my site, too. Continue to expose the lies.
hismindandworldpeace.wordpress.com
March 30, 2008 at
With reference to Hank O’Hare’s comment, “30 seconds into eternity, oparah will be calling on the God she dont believein.”
I’m fascinated by the sort of religious person that seems to revel in the pain and suffering they expect others will endure. Nothing exposes your doubt so well as sadistic fervor.
March 30, 2008 at
Derek, He who believes (adheres to , relies on, trusts in) in Jesus has eternal life; but he who does not obey Jesus will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him John 3:36
God has fixed a day when He will judge the world in righteousness. Acts 17:31
It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:31
Shalom!
March 30, 2008 at
A man once asked Jesus, “What is truth?” Pilate did not wait around for the answer from Jesus, who is the Truth, the Way , and the Life. (John 14: 6) Truth is truth regardless of what one believes. God has given men over in the lusts of their hearts , because man has exchanged the truth of God for a lie, worshipping the created (self and idols) , rather than the Creator. (Romans 1: 24, 25) The wages of sin is death, the place of punishment is Hell. This is true, whether we believe it or not. For those who refuse to come into the light and let their deeds be exposed, repent and trust the cross to save them, the wrath of God remains on them. Once to die, then the judgment. It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God!
March 30, 2008 at
I hardly think Joel Osteen is to be placed in the same category as Oprah…Joel is a godly man who loves people and changed many lives through Jesus Christ…Oprah..hmmm…she is becoming a looney!
March 31, 2008 at
Yada yada, Zon.
Obviously you and I disagree on the veracity of those bible verses, but that wasn’t the point I was raising. I was pointing out the strange, sadistic excitement that some theists seem to have when they consider non-theists getting their comeuppance. Quote all you want, but it doesn’t seem very merciful (on your part, I’m not even referring to a deity) to enjoy the idea of someone suffering, regardless of how much you may think they brought it upon themselves.
As a godless heathen, I shouldn’t be the one pointing out that you should turn the other cheek, do unto others, and love your enemy.
March 31, 2008 at
I agree with you William, it is sad to see how Oprah has so badly misinterpreted God’s jealous nature.
It is sad to see such a figure as herself credit her success to herself. All we can do in this manner is pray and standout for the truth. Proclaim the Gospel and let the truth be known!
1 luv n God bless
March 31, 2008 at
Oprah, is wrong, wrong, wrong. There is only one way, and that is through Jesus Christ our Savior and Lord. God is not jealous of us, but He is jealous of the gods that other people put before Him. Trust and Obey. The Bible is our guide and we are to live our lives as close to God each day as we possibly can. The cross was a death warrant for Jesus, but he did not die. He arose the third day as the Bible said He would. Our sins He took with Him to the cross. We have the choice of receiving His salvation through His Grace and our Faith. The other choice, is the road that leads to hell. I don’t want to go there. I want to see my Jesus face to face one day and thank Him for what He did for me that day at Calvary. I hope you do too.
March 31, 2008 at
Oprah, Why not just read the Bible? (There won’t be any doctrines in
heaven.) It isn’t that difficult to understand.
Joshua 24:19 God said he is a jealous God. Not jealous of us, but that
we should worship him and not other gods.
Sincerely,
Louise
March 31, 2008 at
All I can say is “yikes!” We need to open up our eyes, the devil comes in many disguises designed to first allure and then mislead. Oprah’s blame of a preacher referring to the jealous nature of God is a cowardly cop-out. If it bothered her so much, did she go and talk to him for clarification or seek other counsel on the matter? Sounds like she already made a decision in her heart to reject God and a life of surrender and true selflessness and now uses all kinds of spiritual excuses to justify her choices. It all boils down and goes back to the “garden” of choice… surrender to God or try to become a God of your own. http://chris-kratzer.blogspot.com
March 31, 2008 at
Well, I have not been a big fan of Oprah’s for quite some time. This opens my eyes a little to her beliefs and that scares me. There are many ways to Heaven? What kind of talk is that? JESUS is the only way into the Kingdom of Heaven. I think she has misunderstood something or does not have much knowledge of scripture. GOD is not jealous of her! That sounds a little egocentric to me.
Blessings.
April 1, 2008 at
All that sucess and money is the product of Gods favor. She knows that she is undeserving of such good fortune and feels compelled to explain it as something godly within her own self.She needs to consult with any good U.S. Marine who has servived one day of frontline combat. If she dosen’t invoke Gods rath he may yet give her time to see the error of her ways before its to late. God loves even the dummys but he very well may set her up as an example for the whole world to observe. No man can second guess Gods plans.
April 1, 2008 at
Sadly, Oprah has taken one word preached to her all those years ago so out of context….its not funny. Just goes to show that you can read all the books in the world and still not get it.
The Word of God says “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD”.
Mans/womans intellect is nothing compared to God.
As intelligent as Oprah is…she isnt sounding too clever on this one!
April 1, 2008 at
Look,
It is up to you to determine your path. I know that there are millions of “O”-BOTS, that would blindly follow Oprah into oblivion. I like Oprah, but come on people, use your brains you had before the Oprah Show…(Key word: Show!)
But, for what it’s worth…I am a Christian and daughter of a Baptist Minister who respects Jews, Catholics, Muslims and others who follow their religions.
It’s a long standing argument that Christianity is the only way to heaven versus practicing any other religion. I cannot claim to know this for sure. I believe it, as part of my religion…yet I could be wrong. Every religion believes their way is the only way.
For now, I will continue meditating on the Lord while doing yoga, eating Hebrew National hot dogs, wearing a Rosary as a cool accessory and not keeping my hair wrapped up.
I don’t have all the answers, I just have my opinion.
Seriously McMillan
Maven of Urban Manners and Etiquette
http://www.shesoghetto.wordpress.com
April 1, 2008 at
How sad! I am so thankful for who GOD is to me! Also, so thankful for all that HE’s done for me. I was killed in an auto accident in 1991. When the doctors had no help for me, GOD still did! My entire testimony available at http://www.YoungHarmony.com GOD is real for those who believe AND for those who don’t. I have never met Oprah, but I know that she is. I have come to know JESUS and I know that HE is more real than anyone I know. She really works hard for her beliefs, maybe we need to work harder for ours!
Johnathan Bond
Young Harmony
April 1, 2008 at
Pss.14
[1] The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God…
Johnathan Bond
http://www.YoungHarmony.com
April 1, 2008 at
GOD, HIMSELF SAID THAT HE IS A JEALOUS GOD. GOD IS MORE THAN A FEELING, MORE THAN A BELIEF, HE IS A KNOWING GOD, AND EVERYBODY DEEP INSIDE OF THEM SELFS KNOWS THAT. GOD IS LOVE, BUT ALSO JUDGEMENT.
April 1, 2008 at
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April 1, 2008 at
She did not start a “church” and I think everyone should take a cold hard look at what she is saying…You can take 30 second clips from ANYTHING and turn it around for bad…if you don’t WATCH the program…week after week to hear what she really has to say, then you have NO ROOM to talk. Take what is good out of it, and spit out the bones…we can learn a lot from one another.
April 2, 2008 at
My heart goes out to Oprah, and all that have been infected with this doctrine. There is one way, one book, and one answer…Jesus, the Bible, and Salvation through Jesus. God is more than a feeling, he is a person. We “are” made in the image of Him. We “will” see Him one day whether you want to or not. And every knee “will” bow, and every tongue “will” confees that Jesus “is” Lord…even Oprah’s tongue.
April 2, 2008 at
We need to pray for Oprah and the millions who “follow” her and who are being deceived. Jesus is the ONLY way and she WILL be held accountable on judgement day. I feel sorry for her and pray the she opens her eyes and heart to the truth before it’s too late. There is no other way to the Father but through Jesus Christ our Savior.
April 2, 2008 at
Fantastica, research showed just this week that the Catholic Church is no longer the largest - the Muslim faith has that position now. What a sad world. We ALL need lots of prayer.
April 2, 2008 at
The only thing I can say is these wonderful people out there with all of their brillance will one day realize how BIG GOD is and then it is too late, they have already met THE DEVIL And Hell’s Fire. Praise GOD
April 2, 2008 at
Oh, I no longer listen to Oprah, she is too far gone.
April 2, 2008 at
Regarding efforts to define “one way,” consider this: Jesus allowed people to discover who he was. He hoped they could figure it out by observing the combination of his words & loving behaviors. Rather than going around saying, “Hey, everybody, I’m the Son of God, and you’d better believe that or you’ll be damned forever,” Jesus would instead ask, “Who do you say I am?” What Jesus taught is that God’s presence is revealed through those in a living relationship with God, in how we “bear the fruit of the vine.” The vine is perfect love.
In this regard, Oprah has rightly recoiled from a presentation of God which depicts God as having crass, base, or spiritually ugly attributes. Her insistence that God is love fits with the picture Jesus gave us of his Heavenly Father. Jesus did not cram his teachings down our throats; he instead allowed us to seek, so that we could find. The Holy Spirit is our guide if we are honestly seeking (& I haven’t noticed that the Holy Spirit judges).
Are those who presume to have truth nailed down even still connected? (At what point do we know enough about God’s beautiful nature to stop exploring it?) While I may not agree with all that Oprah says/does, she is honestly seeking. I respect that. Also, I have prayed that those who equate rigidity of belief with faith, can be freed of their fear, so as to better allow the Spirit’s liberating, transformative influence.
April 2, 2008 at
John 14:6 Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
April 2, 2008 at
John 3:16
“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Key word here is “believe” it does not say whoever “feels”.
April 2, 2008 at
Aw, well one day when she stands before God and catches that glimpse of Him, she’ll change her mind. Then yes, she’ll really cry out to the same Jesus that she didn’t believe in on Earth. How sad. To see the influence she has on people and the wrong influence at that. The infallible Word of God is really that…undeniable and irrefutable.
April 2, 2008 at
I have lost all respect for Oprah since she has come out with this teaching that will surely lead millons to hell. My God is real and I will ever Praise Him.
April 2, 2008 at
Does it bother anyone else that Oprah is also such a proud supporter of Obama?
April 2, 2008 at
I can not judge anyone by this short video, but for myself…..the Lord is my salvation, and I am so thankful for all that He has meant to me and my family. I can not imagine living in this world as it is, without knowing that I can rely on God and his goodness and grace!
April 2, 2008 at
What’s scary about Oprah is that she honestly believes that she is truly enlightened. She has done all of these great acts of kindness which can lead herself and others into spiritual deception as she appears so righteous and so spiritually atuned.
Jesus said himself, “I am The Way, The Truth and The Life no one can come to the Father accept by Me.”
Doesn’t say through giving away cars, giving away houses, etc.
April 2, 2008 at
What Oprah is doing is as old as the cause of man’s fall from God’s grace in the Garden of Eden. Satan, in essence, told Eve not believe God, but rather believe him and of course she did. The words may differ and the people who Satan uses may differ, but the intent is always the same and, that is to get people separated from the true God and their Creator using lies. I believe it was Adolf Hitler who employed this same method by advocating that if you tell a lie long enough and often enough, the people will come to believe it.
Oprah is trying to match wits with the Omnipotent and Omnciscient God. He wins and poor Oprah loses out in eternity. Pray for her.
April 3, 2008 at
I’ve always been uncomfortable listening to Oprah, but was impressed with the good she does through her giving to charities and needy individuals. However, in the light of this video, I now see that, deep in her heart, she’s trying to work her way into Heaven.
Well, Oprah, it won’t work, my dear. Your heart is telling you what your mind refuses to believe: there is only one way and that is through Christ. I pray that one day her eyes will be opened as Paul’s were.
April 3, 2008 at
ALL her money can not get her into HEAVEN, unless she gives her
heart to JESUS.
April 3, 2008 at
TRUE
April 3, 2008 at
I’m amazed at how things have been blown out of context here.
Leave it to the religeous right, to always pass judgement.
You people that don’t watch Oprah, don’t get it!
Stay in your little boxes where you belong. In the meantime let people be; where’s Americas tolerance and freedom of speech? You guys need to get a life, I’ll pray for YOU!
April 3, 2008 at
Oprah needs help. It appears that she is proud that she is self made. Her worth seems to be in “her” ability, not Jesus’. She needs the approval of man and the sad thing is, she thinks she has it. However, it won’t last.
April 3, 2008 at
It is very clear to me that this country is still filled with hatred, fear and an over all superior feeling all nicely packaged under the guise of Christianity.
Too bad that so many of you use the bible as a means to tear down people, countries and other beliefs that are about living in peace with each other.
Living a good life and giving back to our world is exactly what we need more of. It must be exhausting to constantly sit in judgement of others.
I guess I will take comfort in the fact that so many of you feel threatened that your beliefs are not the end all for the growing many that have found a better way above all of the repression that so many churches teach.
I am sure that someone will begin quoting the scriptures about my comments. Please know that while I respect everyones right to choose their religion, I also know that the bible is a book of stories written 100 years after the death of Jesus and has been revised and rewritten so many times since that it’s messages are very confusing and sometimes misleading.
With that said, I guess we will continue to see massive killings, war torn countries, suffering and devastation all in the name to have fundamental christian values imposed on the world.
Be aware that more people today are enlightened spiritually to a better way by self improvement and acts of kindness. It is very interesting to me that there are so many of you out there that are without sin throwing stones. It must be grand to be you.
Too bad all of this energy is not redirected in a way that makes the world a better place for everyone.
April 3, 2008 at
It is very clear to me that this country is still filled with hatred, fear and an over all superior feeling all nicely packaged under the guise of Christianity.
Too bad that so many of you use the bible as a means to tear down people, countries and other beliefs that are about living in peace with each other.
Living a good life and giving back to our world is exactly what we need more of. It must be exhausting to constantly sit in judgement of others.
I guess I will take comfort in the fact that so many of you feel threatened that your beliefs are not the end all for the growing many that have found a better way above all of the repression that so many churches teach.
I am sure that someone will begin quoting the scriptures about my comments. Please know that while I respect everyones right to choose their religion, I also know that the bible is a book of stories written 100 years after the death of Jesus and has been revised and rewritten so many times since that it’s messages are very confusing and sometimes misleading.
With that said, I guess we will continue to see massive killings, war torn countries, suffering and devastation all in the name to have fundamental christian values imposed on the world.
Be aware that more people today are enlightened spiritually to a better way by self improvement and acts of kindness. It is very interesting to me that there are so many of you out there that are without sin throwing stones. It must be grand to be you.
Too bad all of this energy is not redirected in a way that makes the world a better place for everyone.
Maybe we should all start our day thinking about what we can do today to make this a better place and spend less time tearing down those who are trying.
Stop waiting for the rapture and make a difference while it counts.
April 3, 2008 at
i know oprah is wrong…however i dont like the subliminmal messeges in this report on oprahs chuch…watch it again and you will see the warning sign pop up…this de values the report…i dont need to be mind tricked into believing oprah is wrong…i already know that…just report the facts…no sublinimal messaging…
April 3, 2008 at
Jesus loves the World sooooooooo very much HE WANTS OPRAH IN TRUTH OF G-O-D-’-S WORD.
I pray Oprah will turn from that reprobate-twisted mind of ‘UNtruth.’ The devil has greatly DECEIVED her–I pray a laborer of God Almighty crosses her path who will lead her in prayer to declare with her mouth Jesus Christ as her LORD and believe in her heart that God raised Jesus from the dead [Rom 10:9-10]. She will then receive the L-I-G-H-T from God’s Word on its REAL TRUTH about God, His Plan, His Word/Work/Will/Desire.
Let’s pray that the blinds will be taken off her eyes and she’ll come to the reality of a personal relationship with God Almighty through Jesus The Anointed One and His Anointing!!!!!—In Jesus’ Name and by HIS BLOOD we pray—Amen [so be it]!!!!!!
HERE’S A NOTE TO OPRAH IN CASE SHE VIEWS THIS BLOG:
JESUS LOVES YOU TO LIFE Oprah!!! YOU WANT TO invite Jesus into your heart to be LORD, SAVIOR & MASTER. If you will declare with your mouth that Jesus is [your] Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead, you shall be saved [Rom 10: 9-10]. Pray the following prayer from your heart—
PRAYER: Father, in the name of Jesus, I do believe Jesus is the Son of God. I believe He died for me & shed His blood on Calvary for my sins. They buried Him, put Him in the grave; but I believe He’s no longer there — I believe He has risen. Dear Lord Jesus, come into my heart now / come into my life now / and save me now. I repent of sin by turning away from it and I receive you Jesus. Thank you Lord for hearing and answering my prayer; and I am, right now, according to your Word, BORN ANEW / BORN FROM ABOVE / BORN AGAIN–a Member of the Body of Christ!!!
NOTE: Salvation is not based on your feelings. God honors your faith to act on what He says [Heb. 11:6]. If you believe his Word is true, and you do as He has instructed, that demonstrates your trust [faith] in what He’s said and He will perform that Word in your life for you! If you said the above prayer from your heart, you’re no longer just God’s creation, you are now God’s child / a Member of the Body of Christ and you stand right before HIM. Welcome to the Family!!!! Today is the best day of your life because Jesus lives big in you!!!
Start reading the book of St. John and get into a Bible-believing/Bible-teaching church. CONGRATULATIONS!!!! Today is the best day of your life, because Jesus lives big in you Today!!!!!
April 3, 2008 at
HA…the same God she believes is just a “feeling” is the God she will be crying out for to save her when she enters into eternity! This is so terribly sad. I have a hard time believing Christians…true Christians…could be sucked into this crap. Run away…and FAST!!!
April 3, 2008 at
OH MY GOD!
I really pity those following her when judgement day comes around.
Christians, God’s Children, will be caught up in an instant, and those following her and other false teachings will be caught standing with their fingers in their noses asking, “What did I do wrong?”
I had no idea about Oprah’s beliefs, so I guess I dont have to worry about who I’m following.
I am deep in my God and nothing can shake it!!
April 3, 2008 at
“Maybe we should all start our day thinking about what we can do today to make this a better place and spend less time tearing down those who are trying.”
LOL what a thought…
April 3, 2008 at
Her views on God and who He is, are warped. I laughed when she said, “God is jealous, of what, me? I though God was love.” Does she not realize He is also a just God. The scriptures speak more of the wrath of God than they do the love of God. She is in another world. It is sad that she thinks there are “many paths” to God. Narrow is the way that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
April 3, 2008 at
Even if you do not believe in Jesus as the only way of salvation, you have to admit that Oprah does not believe in Jesus as Savior by her own words. Also, if you do not believe in Jesus I have no words to impress you but simply to make you aware that I will pray that you make time to “try Him.” Actually READ the Bible not what everyone else says about it.
Someone wanted to know about America’s tolerance and freedom of speech. The sad thing is it seems everyone is tolerated and has freedom to speak, except for the Christian. I understand this too. No one wants to be told they are a sinner in need of a savior; no one wants to have guide lines. Of course, no one has to take a bath either but it feels good when you do!
I encourage you to read the Bible (not glance at it or read the summaries; pick up a copy).
By the way someone needs to remind Oprah the Bible is still THE BEST SELLER. Wonder if she will put it in her Book Club?
People are afraid of the Bible because, for believers and non-believers, when you pick it up its words, precepts, and promises have a strong impact on your life. Even if you believe it is just a book of stories written 100 years after the death of Jesus and has been revised many times. Wonder why no other “book” suffers the scrutiny the Bible does – could it be because it is actually what it says it is. If so then Jesus is who He said He is and that would really up-set a lot of people.
Read the Word and pray,
Dr. K
April 3, 2008 at
The type of jealousy God has for His people. I am married to Skipper; I have committed my life to him. He has a rightful jealousy over me, but not a demanding, controlling, insecure jealousy. Would he be crazy and insecure if I left him for another man and vice versa? No! Would some say, “That Skipper dude is just jealouse, there is something wrong with him, why does he care if his wife left him?” That is a natural and understanding emotion to have. She is very smart, but not very wise. Classic case of people twisting scirptures and then denying God.
April 3, 2008 at
Jeremiah 14:14
And the LORD said to me, “The prophets prophesy lies in My name. I have not sent them, commanded them, nor spoken to them; they prophesy to you a false vision, divination, a worthless thing, and the deceit of their heart.
Matthew 7:15
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
Matthew 24:11
Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many.
Matthew 24:24
For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
Mark 13:22
For false christs and false prophets will rise and show signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
Luke 6:26
Woe to you when all men speak well of you, For so did their fathers to the false prophets.
2 Peter 2:1
But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.
1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
April 3, 2008 at
The book called the bible suffers scrutiny because people use it to justify their actions towards those who do not subscribe to christianity. Some christians believe in the old testament, casting judgement on those christains who live by the teachings of the new testament. Throw in a gideon bible and a king james version and oh let’s not forget the lost book of mormons, it becomes very clear why it is scrutinized.
The people who scrutinize the bible the most are christians. Everyone is too hung up on being right in their beliefs to take the time to follow the path of natural law.
We are not here to have the world serve us, we share this place with many beautiful people and all the creatures who inhabit it. We are no better than either.
I am amazed that so called christians can rally together to pass judgement on a person who has helped so many people and who continues to give hope to those who need our help. If you believe that Oprah Winfrey is headed off to hell in the after-life I really would rethink what kind of people will be in the so called heaven.
By the way, which book of the bible did Jesus write telling us who he is and what he stands for?
April 3, 2008 at
This election season has really brought out many kooks and dummies who actually believe that the masses they themselves lead (who really aren’t thinking people, but folloers) will be persuaded against your leadership. Those that put this together FEAR to dissuade and persude their own congregants of political thought.
I agree with fantastika4021 and adamently disagree with Apeek. From the clips of Oprah speaking and interviewing others, you have parceled and nipped and clipped portions in which you came up with her not believing in Jesus and the Lord God. Anyone can take snippets as in Dr Wright’s preaching for thirty seconds and making it the focus of thirty years of hard labor in bringing thousands to the fact of God’s saving power in Christ Jesus. There is no question what the geared up Republican dirty tricks machine will do to discredit anyone else’s belief system as they seek only one agenda! To win at any cost to America!!
I knew as I was watching your snippets and researched clips; that there was going to be a hook and a climax involving Barack Obama somewhere and was delighted when I saw his picture and exclaimed to myself, “There it is”. This is not about Oprah’s starting a new religion or her disbelief in Jesus our Lord and Savior! This is about stopping the canidadcy of Barack Obama.
You people will stop at nothing and are extremly jealous of Oprah’s influence on women and especially women not of color. You are afraid that the White woman cannot think for herself and has endorsed Oprah far too long. So now we must destroy her power of influence and media authority she worked hard to gain. If she had not brought her influence to thousands and hundreds of thousands to millions of the working women and men of her audience to introduce Barack Obama, you would not be attacking her. You would not have spent long hours researching clips as you did with Rev. Wright in an attempt to destroy her strenght in media and her power of influence as you tried to do unsuccessfully with MARTHA STEWART!
BARACK OBAMA WILL WIN THE PRESIDENCY BECAUSE HE DOES HAVE GOD ON HIS SIDE!!
THE TRUE CHURCH is in intercession and in supplication. You cannot stop God with clips and snippets. Let me ask the question. Has God showed you your clips when you failed him? Has he shown you your sins? Are they being looped in your home in front of your family? How about your church on the screen, in front of your congregation? Ye without sin cast the first stone! “Judge not, that ye be not judged”
April 3, 2008 at
“I am THE way, THE truth and THE life… NO ONE comes to the Father but through me”… Oprah said, “God is love” and this is true. It must be difficult for her to reconcile that fact with her devastating childhood. I think we need to have the love God has for us for Oprah… she has come such a long way from where she was. Listen to her if you like. Who among any of us is without sin? Certainly not me. I learned in my 20’s that the ONLY truth is from the Bible. That is why it is still the number ONE book sold worldwide, throughout history. If it can’t be sold, it’s given away, but the words are timeless. Believing in the words of any man or woman outside of the truth of the Bible is and always will be dangerous. Get your truth from the source… just like the elementary song… the
B-I-B-L-E.
As Christians, the issue is NOT Ophra. It is within ourselves. Are we showing God’s love for us, through us to others? Jesus told the disciples, “this is how they will know you are my disciples, by your LOVE”. Read YOUR Bible, figure out what that love looks like… Read the story of King Davids life, then read the Psalms to see how God loved him (FYI… he had a man killed after getting that mans wife pregnant, then King D married that dead mans wife, they lost the baby at age 2, King D’s other son raped one of King D’s daughters, his oldest son wared against him until death, etc…. awful, soap opera stuff… God chose King D to be in the royal line of Jesus… God’s love is incomprehensible!).
Love God. Love others. Don’t know how? Read your Bible for yourself. Get a good commentary that explains the words. Pray for understanding. God is faithful. God IS love.
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Praise Allah
April 3, 2008 at
Thank God for Oprah. She is clearly the new Messiah and has thus proven that Jesus was a prophet and a wise man but not divine.
April 3, 2008 at
It is so sad that fame has destroyed Oprah’s reasoning. She is famous because of what God has given her. She needs to read the Bible with a person, of knowledge of the truth, to learn about our Savior and redeemer. The Bible is God’s word and it tells of how much he loves us and has willingly done for us.
Pray for Oprah. She needs our help.
Pray that she does not lead others astray.
April 4, 2008 at
The Bible says, in 2 Peter 2:1-31 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. & in 2 Timothy 4: 3-5 3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 5 But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry. Is this not so happening?!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! The end times are hand, we do not have time to waste!!! Please see the signs the Lord Jesus told us to watch for, and heed, because this world is a time bomb. We cannot afford to start telling people about the Lord, and pointing out all the signs these prominent leaders are so obvoiusly shouting out to the world. The antichrist is near and so many of the leaders or leaders to be in our country are promoting these kinds of things! They are going to be the ones here leading this nation to follow after the antichrist and all his ideas!!! When someone claims to be a christian yet stands for all that goes against christianity that should be our 1st clue!!! False Prophets, ravenes wolves in sheeps clothing!!! It is time to get right with God!!!! If you don’t know Him it is not to late to escape the fires of hell!!! Today ask Him to save you, and change your heart then find a good bible beleiving church, to help you learn how to do the rest.
Get your bible out, and read He gave us all the answers there!!! PLEASE PLEASE don’t allow satan to place blinders on you!! Seek the Lord for the truth, and submit to that truth no matter what it may be, or what you may have to swallow!!! Please heed His warning!!! We must tell everyone, that many may come to know Him before this time comes, and it’s too late for many, who heard the Word and denied it!!! May the Lord be with you always!!!
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Opra, dear, God is not jealous of YOU for what you have or what you’ve done, but for your affection. He wants to be first in your life”What does it profit a man to gain the wlole world only to lose his own soul” All her fame and fortune is nada, zilch, in God’s eyes…unless its used to increase the Kinkdom. Jesus Christ was not a prophet. Jesus has to be either a liar, a lunatic , or Lord. Out of all the ” god’s ” worshiped today allah, budda, etc. Jesus, the true God is the only one that has conquered the grave and still lives today. The real tradgedy is the millions that are lost and need some sense of hope that follow such wrong teachings from someone that is in a position to do so much good. What a pitty….but the time is near when every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord !
April 4, 2008 at
Um, yall. Calm down… If you LISTEN - Oprah was interviewing the man and stating/clarifying what HE BELIEVED - she never said that SHE believed it. I believe she makes some GOOOD points concerning spirituality and I also think that “Christianity” as we know it is NOT in it’s original intended purest form.. It’s been VERY poluted by the church - in fact the “church” is one of the BIGGEST problems in this world and country… As Christians, we need to stop being so “emotional” and also use the wonderful brains we’ve been given and THINK… THINK….. THINK….. try that for a change… THINK!! Put the tambourines and organs down for a minute, stop speaking in tongues for a minute and THINK!!! We are NOT in order as a church….
I AM a Christian….I love God/Jesus a WHOLE LOT….lol
April 4, 2008 at
It’s amazing to me how much of a controversy is coming out of all this. Oprah needs to simply take the bible for herself and read it, it explains itself, without her adding to it, be careful to anyone who adds to or takes away from the WORD of GOd HIMSELF. Who do we think we are. Are we saying we are greater than the CREATOR???? God help us!!!!
All I know is ONE day the WQORD will defens itself and God will have the last word. We had better get out of OUR OWN thinking and come under the authority of ONLY ONE who can save us fron our sins!!! JESUS CHRIST says it well, I AM THE FIRST AND THE LAST THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA, we had better get it right before it’s too late~!!!!
April 4, 2008 at
Folks,
I actually wanted to do some writing on Oprah’s communication. The clip above is a textbook book example and/or illustration as to how savvy Oprah is in communicating to people/fans/viewers of her television show.
I decided against it due to copyright laws (every episode is copywritten, from what I am told) and the necessary step of getting permission from Oprah’s company to write about her way of communicating her ideas on her TV show.
–The Wow Jones Report
April 4, 2008 at
I feel so incredibly sad at this moment. Oprah has to be one of the most giving and loving women that I’ve ever watched on television. She has such a huge audience and following and instead of leading them to someone that can actually save them, because by her own admission, she knows who God is, she is leading them to a place in eternity of complete destruction. I have for years prayed for Oprah because of the impact that she has on others. Now more than ever, my prayers are with her. How sad that she has bought into the idea, that we are our saviors. I don’t want to be my savior because I’m in trouble if that’s my role. I’m so grateful that God loves me enough that he is jealous of things in my life that can harm me. I will continue to stand on God’s word and not be afraid of my Savior that did die on a cross, but he didn’t remain there, He lives. Oprah, how incredibly sad you are. If having the money that you have has made you believe that you are a God, I fear for you. I pray for God to continue to be patient with you and give you an opportunity to accept Him.
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I don’t even know what to say after watching this….I just feel sick to my stomach. Oprah has such influence over so many people, it’s very upsetting thinking how many people are going to buy into this, and be led astray. What a shame….It’s just too upsetting for words. Shame, Shame, Shame on you Oprah.
April 4, 2008 at
With her so called intelligence she should be able to see the way she and her geru have twisted the Bible, I just consider it to be more of the sign of the end of times, and the coming of our Lord and Savior, he doesn’t care how much money she has.It will make good kindling if she doesn’t see the error of her ways.
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The thing that scares me the most about this is that she is the most infuencial person in America.
April 4, 2008 at
Ever think that Anti-christ could be a woman…..She is very popular and well liked by many.
April 4, 2008 at
I don’t watch Oprah. I have only been alerted of the broadcast from a very dear friend whom I trust. Many will be continue to be deceived in these days. I too once didn’t “buy” into what I believed to be Hoopla concerning God, but He made Himself very real to me and now I can’t fathom any other life than Christianity. What I want to know from those that doubt is……what if we are right (that Jesus is the only way) if you ascribe to that and believe, then what do you have to lose? If you don’t….you have everything to lose. It’s not a risk I want to take.
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Hey Joe Rinker
Here’s a couple of quotes from you. You’re waaaaay off. You’ve stated a couple common misconceptions from people that don’t spend time studying the validity of Scripture. Try “Evidence That Demands a Verdict” vol. 1 by Josh McDowell . Josh was a skeptic turned believer after extensive research on trying to DISPROVE Christianity. Hence, the title…
I also know that the bible is a book of stories written 100 years after the death of Jesus and has been revised and rewritten so many times since that it’s messages are very confusing and sometimes misleading.
The book called the bible suffers scrutiny because people use it to justify their actions towards those who do not subscribe to christianity. Some christians believe in the old testament, casting judgement on those christains who live by the teachings of the new testament. Throw in a gideon bible and a king james version and oh let’s not forget the lost book of mormons, it becomes very clear why it is scrutinized.
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After reading these responses….Whew! Where to start?
Take no one’s word for anything–read the Bible and allow God’s Spirit to lead you. Just try it–15 minutes a day, for 30 days. Such a small investment of time to search the truth for eternity. How can anyone say they don’t believe in God…Even Satan knows there is a God.
1. Oprah is WRONG.
2. Christians–Jesus is THE way, THE truth…we know that. Communicate this just as our Lord and Savior did..with love and concern for those who do not believe. Take care to lead, with love and caring for those eternal souls, to the Jesus we know. To communicate that someday unbelievers will “get what is coming to them” is not what our loving & caring Lord wants us to do. Our hearts should be greiving for those misguided by souls–whether that be Oprah or anyone that understands not what God wants. The fact is that we choose to follow Jesus and believe in him OR spend eternity in Hell. Beating unbelivers over the head with this fact will not convince them God is a loving God. Show them God’s love first, then let them know our concern for their eternal soul.
3. Dr. K–you are right on target. God Bless you.
4. Capt. Joe–Your message is right on target. Jesus is the only human to overcome death, rise again and live. It is a pity and so sad that so many are misled.
5. Oprah and others in position of great influence carry a huge burden for those they lead or mis-lead. Make no mistake about it, her statements are grossly wrong–call them snippets or whatever you choose. The fact is the words came from her mouth and people are believing her lies. It is a travesty.
6. When you need information about gardening, you look for the best book you can find about gardening….if you want information about God, read his Book–The Bible. It is divine, it is sacred, and is all about Jesus (remember, the only man to rise from the dead…
I pray for God’s blessings and guidance for you all.
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It saddens me that Christians have become so narrow minded as to define others experiences of God. Jesus did say the only way to God was through Him. But are any of of us qualified to say we know all of the ways HE speaks to everyone? Why so many denominations? Protestants? Catholics? Has it ever occurred to anyone else that Christ would come to us in any form to save us? He DIED for us for crying out loud. It is the message, not the religion, not the doctrine. How far off is her message of love, of peace of charity from Christ’s? Give me a break people.
April 5, 2008 at
There is only one God, Jesus, and Holy Spirit, any other way is false and HELL bound. I will pray for you all.
April 5, 2008 at
I agree 100%
April 5, 2008 at
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April 5, 2008 at
Isn’t Oprah just saying that there is more than one path to the Divine? This is the way I explained it to my daughter: There are many different cultures and beliefs about the Divine. But, most of these beliefs have a similar core…..Do unto others……Harm none or it comes back to you threefold…….Karma, etc. Everyone has her or his own path to follow. My grandmother had seven children and twenty-four grandchildren. Her mother called her “Pauline” ; her husband called her “Polly”; her various children called her”Mom”, “Mother”, “Mommy”. Of the twenty-four grandchildren, I was the only one to call her “Granny”….the others called her “Grandmother”, “Grandma”, “MawMaw”, and “Gramma”. Even though she was called by many different names and each person had a different relationship with her, she was one person….. but each person in her life saw a different aspect of her. It has been said that if a group of people sit in a circle with an object in the middle of the circle, each person in the circle will have a different view and thus a different interpretation and description of what the object is. Even if two people are looking at the same view of the object the two people are going to describe it differently according to her or his own views.
Blessings to you all,
Kat
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Pardon me aguynamedguy if I find in difficult to believe that the author of the book you mentioned has the right to speak on behalf of Christ or God.
That is my point, Jesus or God never wrote a word, human beings did. They were the Oprah of their day.
Someday in the distant future, maybe people will be reading the book of Oprah, just as many today read the lost testament of John Smith.
I will continue to try to live my life each day making a positive difference with the people I come into contact with. I will strive to leave this place a little better.
I choose to not be someone who lives in fear of doom from my God but the doom that mankind is bringing on itself by living above the natural law.
I choose acceptance over hatred, peace over war, life over killing and most of all I have the right to choose everyday the beauty all around me that has been afforded to every living creature.
In closing, I may be way off, but I promise my life and the way I live it will not cause you intentional hurt or support the the organizations that hold superiority over others.
I thank everyone here who has commented on this blog. It is very clear that each of us has such strong feelings about what is and what will be.
As I read through all the comments, I noticed respect and the absence of name calling and ugliness.
Peace on Earth and Goodwill
April 5, 2008 at
Dear Oprah, You have obviously NOT read God’s Word, written! If you have, you are NOT paying any attention to it whatsoever. There is hope for you-it is found in the short book of Joel chapter 2:12-13. This is true repentance that causes humans to put there complete and utter trust in God’s Son, Jesus Christ of Nazareth! The Bible, God’s Word, written is all about Jesus, the God-Man. Yes HE is fully God and Fully Man at the same time. If you doubt anything that I have written here, Just begin your journey right now and read the Church Fathers, of what it means to be Christian and to have faith in Jesus Christ. I believe you eyes and heart will be opened to the only way that you may have life. You say in the beginning of this presentation, that you do not believe Jesus is the only way to “Heaven”. If heaven is the only goal you have, the Bible states “you are to be pitied.” This is found in the New Testament, you say you were a Baptist at the outset. What kind may I ask? This you say does not line up with their beliefs — it seems you are mixing beliefs…??
There is hope for you, even though a veil is draped over your heart right now, Please Read I Corinthians 15 and tell me what you think. I will pray for God to continue drawing you to himself.
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Listen carfully she misquotes scripture. God is not jealous of her He is jealous of our feelings for other things. This man that wrote the book says God says you are the light God says and I quote “I am the light” not us. And just to clarify there is ONLY ONE GOD, there is ONLY ONE WAY! As for the light we are not the light Christ is the light. Johns 8:12 “I am the light of the the world.” As for us we are to let that light shine for all the world to see. Matthew 7:15 “Watch out for false prophets.” Keep praying for these people and keep your eyes and your bible open. May the one and only God bless you.
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I think Opra has crossed a lot of lines here….To me she is satan in the flesh…..She is talking about narrow minds….I think hers has closed for etenity……Feel the heat opra and get used to it
April 5, 2008 at
I cannot judge Oprah as so many of you have because that is God’s place to do. However, I do disagree with her beliefs strongly. There is ONLY one God and he is a veryyy jealous God and if I created all that he did and if I held each individual person in my hand like he does and watched over them daily and made sure that their life was laid out before they were even born… and cared about them so much that I knew the number of hairs on their heads… I’d be jealous too if they decided to praise another “god”. I will surely be praying for Oprah and the members of the church that was mentioned and that they will find Jesus Christ before it is too late.
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Who made Oprah God ?
To decide there are many ways to God or Jesus?
She does not have that kind of authority.
She may be3 many things to the world but she is NOT GOD and NEVER will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only God decides that John 14:6 says I(Jesus) am the Way, The Truth and The Life. No man cometh unto the Father except through me.
April 6, 2008 at
all this drama b/c she tried to figure out what this author meant in this so called book!!!!!If you believe in Jesus as your lord then what she says should have NO AFFECT what so ever!!!!!!!!! Don’t empower her , depower her let it go!!! It’s not your job to judge others it’s gods and let it remain that way!!!!!
April 6, 2008 at
I think I just threw up in my mouth.
THE ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN IS THROUGH JESUS!!! (Remember, the man who died on the cross and ROSE from the dead…
sdjfcnodaugehv Sheesh!
April 6, 2008 at
In ref to what Derek said about what Hank had to say…..I don’t know about everyone else, but seems to me Hank is just speaking the truth…I didn’t read any gratification in his comment. Christians believe what we believe because we know, YES KNOW God is real, and Christ died on the cross for our sins. This is the ONLY way to get into Heaven. We don’t revel in the fact that non-believers could most certainly end up in hell, however when non-believers with a VERY LOUD VOICE start speaking on THE TRUTH, but lie about it, or are just ignorant about it we as Christian Americans not only have the right, but the responsibility to speak up and make sure that the devil isn’t the only one being heard. Church of Oprah????? That in itself should tell anyone with half a brain….Well I’ll just put it this way….For those of you that don’t believe Christ died on the cross for your sins, or God isn’t real….You’re right! I’d much rather believe in what “The church of oprah” teaches….I feel sorry for those of you that are that weak minded. You are very lucky God is a forgiving, and loving God….I don’t know what the future will bring for you, but if He were anything else but loving, and forgiving I can’t imagine what eternity could be like for you…..But I do know one thing, He could make it worse if He wanted to. church of oprah….WOW! Let’s just say for one second (hypotheticly speaking) there is no God…..The church of oprah???? Wow that’s not just a little SELF SERVING??? Poor poor oprah….She just doesn’t have any confidence in her-self what-so-ever does she….What a self searving, self-loving, holier then thou ATHIEST! Yep! I choose “the church of oprah” lol….Can you say cult? How about week minded? Could say so much more, but just don’t have the words….Well said by the way Sarah, I did the same thing when I got the email of utube about 20 minutes ago….Had to make sure it was for real….I about threw up in my mouth too….That is putting it mildly!
April 6, 2008 at
One of the replies stated that Oprah was only attempting to help people.
How do you help people by giving them misinformation?
How do you obtain unbiased information without having a discussion allowing all sides of the Theology in question to be heard, asking them to show proof for what they believe?
Feelings is what seems to motivate the culture today at the expense of reason.
How damaging can feelings be if they aren’t based on substance that has a solid foundation?
My feelings change minute by minute, day by day, but they are kept in check by reasoning based on solid logic, which keeps me grounded.
I don’t believe the Bible is a book of feelings, but a book that can speak to how we feel about all aspects of life. Scripture puts the feelings our Creator put in all of us into proper perspective.
April 6, 2008 at
just a short comment i dont claim to be anything but a man a sinner i do believe in god and the bible and find life to be an everyday struggle in which each individual has to work out thier own salvation but the bottom line is if the people that dont believe or worry about an afterlife are correct then everyone is ok anyhow but if the bible is correct where does that leave those that dont believe i always would rather have something and not need it than need it and not have it
April 6, 2008 at
Oprah has now made her own demise. Ladies, welcome to Obama and Oprahs views on faith. You now know. May God have mercy upon them both. She is finished.
April 6, 2008 at
Poor woman. God have mercy on you.
Jesus is THE ONLY WAY!!! He´s your savior. He died for all of us, but unfotuntly many does´t not accept. Those will be died for eternaty and will suffer the consequences.
God have mercy on that woman!!!!
Jesus said: “For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. “
April 7, 2008 at
ISAIAH60:2 For , behold, the darkness shall cover the earth and gross darkness the people:
April 7, 2008 at
It does not surprise me that Oprah has these feelings about God and Jesus. Just look that she is a sinner every day when she lives with a man without the blessing of marriage.
April 7, 2008 at
It is so sad that a beautiful black woman has risen to such fame, only to lead so many into hell with her beliefs. I will and I pray others that read this will pray for this woman whom has become so separated from the real god , our lord and savior Jesus Christ.
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In response to Joe Rinker’s post. The comment that the Bible is composed of stories written 100 years AFTER the death of Jesus disturbs me. While this may be true for the New Testament, you have to know that most of the New Testament was written from eye witnesses or people translating eye witness’s accounts to other churches who were just as screwed up in understanding the sound doctrine taught by Jesus Christ. You are also missing the Old Testament which is composed of who God is still to this day. In fact, many of the Old Testament books were written anywhere from 1500BC to before the birth of Jesus, which are full of prophesies telling us about Jesus down to the very place He was conceived by the virgin Mary. Jesus quotes on the cross, “My God, My God, Why have you forsaken me?” In those days passages didn’t have verses. Passages were recognized by memorizing them and knowing the first line. The first line of Psalm 22 is “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” In which, mind you is not David on the cross. Psalm 22:14-18 “I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint;
my heart is like wax; it is melted within my breast;my strength is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue sticks to my jaws; you lay me in the dust of death. For dogs encompass me; a company of evildoers encircles me; they have pierced my hands and feet–I can count all my bones–they stare and gloat over me; they divide my garments among them, and for my clothing they cast lots.” David prophesied the crucifixion 400 years before it was even invented by the Romans. When Jesus took on the sins of the world, He felt it all. How’s that for quoting scripture? Jesus Himself did it, and it’s far more reliable than you think. People haven’t been playing a game of telephone with the Scriptures. They sat down and closely examined the meanings of every word of the original writer’s transcripts. You do however, have to be careful with modern day translations and paraphrases. That’s why I like the ESV and NKJV. They are translations of the Hebrew transcripts while remaining comprehensive and descriptive.
Oprah has a point when she talks about rules. She’s just a little twisted in acting on the issue. Many divisions of Christianity have pointless rules and the mindset that God’s given us a list of rule to follow.. and then He’ll love us. Living this kind of life only leads to feelings of pompous pride or repeated failure. Instead having rules, we are given redemption. God has said He loves us; therefore, we will love him. Psh.. How could he let us into Heaven? Would you invite someone who disobeys all of your house rules into your house? God is letting sinners who believe in Jesus and His teachings into His house where no sin is allowed. That’s beyond me.
“I love you. That’s why I yell at you.” - Mark Driscoll
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To answer a posted question, “What are you Christains so afraid of” (paraphrasing since I can’t remember which person posted it.) I don’t think that we are afraid of her, we are just very conserned because of all the people who beleive what they are TOLD without finding out the truth for themselves. What she is saying is not ULITMATE TRUTH.
To find out about God, you MUST read His Word. I admit that it is a BIG book. But “seek and ye shall find.” God does not force people to beleive. We need to pray for Oprah and all of her followers that they may know Jesus, The Way, The Truth, and The Life.
Remembering what it was like before I knew Jesus, I do know that I tried many things to satisfy a longing in my heart, that (now I know) that only He can fill.
He will draw people to Himself, it is our choice to seek.
Do you hear Him speaking to you? Pick up a bible, and read what he says to you. Like Dr. Kent, (I think), I recomend starting in St. John. or another of the New Testament gospels.
Let’s share truth IN LOVE.
Oprah was created by God, and He is powerful, and therefore He will do His will. He is the judge, but I’m so glad that I know what she is saying and endorsing. We must keep our eyes open, and our armor on.
Love one another. Share His good news.
Forget debating about Oprah, Tell others about JESUS!
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You wacko Christians are nuts. You’re so intolerant and that is not the way of Jesus. Jesus was about peace and understanding and love of everyone. It’s okay for someone to question beliefs. So what. Jesus didn’t mind being questioned about God. You throw in Obama and you sound so paranoid. That tells me it’s a Republican thing too. Republicans took ownership of Christianity yet they are the most intolerable people in this country. It’s pathetic. They hate immigrants (which made up this country) and they hate gays. Jesus would have never done that. You need to re-read your bible in the right way. Leave Oprah alone.
April 7, 2008 at
Just wanted to say that I sent OPRAH the scripture passages about the JEALOUS GOD. I also, am saddened to know that any minister evidently, did not fully explain the scripture to her. If each of us who have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ would pray instead of criticize, GOD can use this situation to reach the ones whom the devil has blinded their eyes and hearts. I am not interested in which church or religion is the largest, etc. My heartfelt concern is that each and every person would be saved from ETERNAL HELL. Btw, GOD does not send anyone to HELL, HE PREPARED A WAY FOR EACH AND EVERYONE OF HIS CREATED HUMAN BEINGS TO CHOOSE TO ACCEPT HIS FREE GIFT OF HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON WHO DIED ON THE CROSS AND WAS RAISED FROM THE DEAD AS PROMISED THREE DAYS LATER TO PAY THE SIN DEBT FOR ALL, AND ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN AND IS SEATED ON THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD MAKING INTERCESSIONS FOR EACH OF HIS CHILDREN.
JOHN 3:16 FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHALL HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. May I suggest you read the following verses and chapters and ask Jesus to come into your heart and save you. If only one person comes to know Christ Personally from my comments, it is worth far more than anything I could ever gain from this world. I accepted JESUS CHRIST AND MY SAVIOR AND LORD OVER 50 YEARS AGO AND HAVE NEVER REGRETTED IT. Eleven years ago June 10th I had emergency open heart surgery and was given 1 percent chance to survive the surgery. I had no doubt that regardless of whether I lived or died, I would be OK.
GRATEFUL,
Glenda
April 7, 2008 at
Like C.S.Lewis said, either Jesus is who he said he is (the only way) and thus Lord, or he is a liar or a lunatic. Personally, if you believe he is a prophet, how can you believe Him when he says “I am the way”? I am saddened that Oprah has succumed to new age existentialism, which is Humanism, the oldest religion in the world, in disquise–worship of man. Her disdain for the Biblical family is obvious. Her new age priest and psychiatrist (Dr. Phil) are both evidence of her unhappiness and unfulfilled life she perceives.
May I ask… who of you would compell your best friend or Christian brother to give to the poor or else be thrown in jail? Would anyone show me in the Bible where government has the right to steal from my Christian brothers to give to anyone the local attorneys or Congressmen and women in Washington say or else go to jail? Compassion shouldn’t demand compulsion. Do you really worship Christ and God? Look at your paystub and checkbook. The Government DEMANDS more tithe than the LORD. Why didn’t God institute socialism instead of capitalism?
I can see why Oprah supports a candidate that supports abortion at any stage and infanticide (see Citizens Report on Obama’s voting record). I an’t see it pragmatically as it has doomed Social Security and Medicare. I can’t see why any Christian would support such a candidate especially when the Old and New Testaments call unborn and born children by the same word, and thus place equal importance to them. Herod’s slaughter of the innocent males at the time of Jesus is enough for me.
April 7, 2008 at
No, Oprah, God is not jealous of you. However since you’re placing what you believe..I mean…FEEL…over and above what Christ said and taught, and you’re using your fame to influence others with those “feelings” you might want to pray that God has mercy on your soul for misleading His sheep.
April 7, 2008 at
This reply is for Glenda:
I, personally, am very grateful you are alive. Reading your post touched me. I have a good feeling that you are doing damage to Satan’s kingdom. Continue fighting the good fight of faith. You are clearly still living for a reason…you are living for Him.
Sincerely.
PS My birthday is June 10th. The Lord gave you a miracle on a special day (smile)
April 7, 2008 at
This response is for LA:
The name calling really isn’t necessary. Is it possible to state your case without attacking the group of people delivering the message you find offensive? In the future, here is a pointer for arguing your point well:
Don’t attack the person (people) delivering the message; speak to the message itself.
In addition, here are just a few scriptures that I hope will encourage you to do what you are advising others to do: read the Bible. But in your case, you will likely need to tack on another task: ask God for revelation.
1) “Jesus was about peace and understanding and love of everyone.” Yes, God is love and Jesus is God incarnate. However, God also HATES. He must. If He didn’t, it would not be consistent with His perfect, Holy nature. For example, Malachi 2:16 clearly states, God “HATES divorce.” And speaking of love, love speaks the Truth, because the Truth sets people free.
2)Yes, Jesus is the Prince of Peace…and He is also the one who said the following in Matthew 10: 33-35: “But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven. “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.”
3)”Jesus didn’t mind being questioned about God.” Indeed, he did not. However, I challenge you to go to the New Testament and count how many times the word ‘truth’ is used. In John 14:6, Jesus says, “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to Father except through me.” Jesus didn’t mind being questioned because He always spoke the truth. He is Truth. To speak any differently would not only be impossible, it would make Him a liar and a friend of His enemy (Satan is the Father of all lies- see John 8:44.)
4)”You throw in Obama and you sound so paranoid. That tells me it’s a Republican thing too…Republicans took ownership of Christianity yet they are the most intolerable people in this country.”
Republican. Democrat. Independent. No one “owns” Christianity, and no one group can claim to have a monopoly on understanding the many deep things of God. However, whomever understands and promotes the sanctity of human life at every and any stage, is to be supported by anyone who claims to be a Christ follower. Again, no one group of people speaks for Christ (Deuteronomy 30: 19). Could it be that you are sounding pretty intolerant yourself…?
5)”It’s pathetic. They hate immigrants (which made up this country) and they hate gays. Jesus would have never done that. You need to re-read your Bible in the right way. Leave Oprah alone.”
Again, no one group of people speaks for Christ, so to say that “they” hate immigrants (you are suggesting), is to say that Christians hate immigrants. This argument is faulty and frail. As a product of two immigrants, and someone who is married to an immigrant, I can say that I do not hate my parents or my husband…and, by the way, I am a Christian.
Additionally, I do not hate “gays” (I call them homosexuals). I was a card-carrying member of the homosexual agenda, and by the grace of God, I have been set-free. Many Christians actually lived and supported the homosexual life-choice. And now that they have come out of the dark closet of homosexuality, and they see just how much brighter life is in Christ, they want to tell others. It is not hateful to speak Truth. Since God has the final and first say on all matters, here is what He has said (and it hasn’t changed) about homosexuality: “If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.” Leviticus 20:13. There are more scriptures that speak to homosexuality being a sin, but the aforementioned one is quite clear. Hate homosexuals? Hardly. Indeed, we love them so much, we tell them the truth. Is it always in a loving, tactful way? No. Christians miss that mark more often than we are willing to accept. Nevertheless, you cannot use our failure to lovingly communicate a Truthful message, to then call the message false or worthy of being ignored. That is not reasonable. Finally, anyone who says they hate a person, is not Christian. Period. (see 1 John 2).
LA, please, allow those who are truly followers of Christ to speak for Him. Please, I kindly ask that you not misrepresent His name…or His people. We are by no means perfect, but we are striving to be perfect like Him. I challenge you to forget all of what you think you know about Him, and seek to know the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth…So help you, God.
Sincerely.
Hismindandworldpeace.wordpress.com
April 7, 2008 at
Did anyone notice that she said, “man made God in his own image”? How about God made man in His own image. Also, Jesus did not say that “we are the light” as Oprah’s teacher mentioned. Jesus is the LIGHT of the WORLD. Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, we must pray for Oprah that she might find the TRUE LIGHT, JESUS CHRIST.
April 7, 2008 at
OPRAH IS FALLING FOR WHAT MANY WILL FALL FOR. FIRST LET ME QUOTE THIS. IN MATTHEW 24:11, AND MANY FALSE PROPHETS SHALL RISE, AND SHALL DECIEVE MANY.
(BE AWARE, THIS MEANS FALSE TEACHERS OF THE GOSPEL, WHO TEACH EVERY SUNDAY)
MATTHEW 24:23 THEN IF ANY MAN SHALL SAY UNTO YOU, LO, HERE IS CHRIST, OR THERE; BELIEVE IT NOT. 24:24 FOR THERE SHALL ARISE FALSE CHRISTS, AND FALSE PROPHETS, AND SHALL SHEW GREAT SIGNS AND WONDERS; INSOMUCH THAT, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, THAY SHALL DECEIVE THE VERY ELECT.
OPRAH STATED THAT SHE WAS SET BACK BECAUSE HER PREACHER SAID GOD IS A JEALOUS GOD. HE IS A JEALOUS GOD AND HE SAYS THAT (IN THE BIBLE ) BECAUSE THE SON OF PERDITION WILL COME FIRST SAYING HE IS GOD AND WILL SHOW YOU MIRACLES AND MAKE YOU THINK HE IS GOD SO THAT YOU WILL GO WITH HIM. GOD IS JEALOUS BECAUSE HE WILL SEE HIS PEOPLE FALLING FOR THIS… IF THEY DON’T KNOW THE TRUTH. WANT THE TRUTH?? READ THE BIBLE.
MAN IS NOT IN CONTROL OF HIS OWN DESTINY- THAT’S JUST NOT THE WAY GOD MADE IT.