Comments on: The Church of Oprah Exposed http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/ Feeling how glorious God is. Feeling how horrible sin is. Feeling how much we need Christ. Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:16:26 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Daniel http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1310 Daniel Sun, 18 May 2008 23:02:22 +0000 http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1310 Comments are closed for this post. My apologies for this inconvenience, i don't see this dialogue (if you want to call it that) as a fruitful one. Maybe this block was needed a long time ago. Thank You. <a href="http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/05/31/why-i-closed-the-oprah-post-after-224-comments/" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is my personal response to this matter. Comments are closed for this post. My apologies for this inconvenience, i don’t see this dialogue (if you want to call it that) as a fruitful one. Maybe this block was needed a long time ago. Thank You.

Here is my personal response to this matter.

]]> By: Joe Rinker http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1309 Joe Rinker Sun, 18 May 2008 21:46:18 +0000 http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1309 Pamela Boggan, the poor dear, needs a spelling and grammar lesson. Typical. Pamela Boggan, the poor dear, needs a spelling and grammar lesson. Typical.

]]> By: Pamela Boggan http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1307 Pamela Boggan Fri, 16 May 2008 05:43:00 +0000 http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1307 After scanning through some of the comments that are posted I am so glad that we as people and individulas whether we believe in God or not have the basic belief that what OPRAH is promoting is a buch of poppy-cock. I know that everyone has theis vision of Oprah just becuase she is the black woman for white people (no pun intended) but Oprah has all of this money and still do not know where she fits in this society. She just did a special in Africa where I was station at and she prayed and called on God and it is even on her DVD.....but here it is a year or so later and some man comes on her show (ANTICHRIST MAN AT THAT) fills her head up with all of this crap and now she thinks that she meant to be a messenger. As many follwers as she has it is an insult to my Heavenly Father that MS. WINFREY and this ANTICHRIST MAN can even compare themselves or the knowledge there of to GOD. YES I AM A CHRISTIAN AND I BELIEVE IN GOD....THAT IS MY BELIEF AND I AM NOT TRYING TO CONVERT HERE....BUT WHAT OPRAH AND THIS ANTICHRIST MAN IS DOING IS SO FAR FETCH THAT EVEN THE UNBELIEVERS ARE APPALLED AND MAD. The reason why she is hitting it big with this (O RELIGION CRAP) is becuase she started cooing them (HER VIEWERS) in a long time ago and now she is the most popluar woman on this earth and I hate to say it but once you get the white folks vote and become the one that Mas-sa like it is a wrap. Oprah is from Mississippi and she was raised in a Baptist Churh....I guess money can BUY RELIGION TOO....but you do not have enough money in the world to by SALVATION...AMEN After scanning through some of the comments that are posted I am so glad that we as people and individulas whether we believe in God or not have the basic belief that what OPRAH is promoting is a buch of poppy-cock. I know that everyone has theis vision of Oprah just becuase she is the black woman for white people (no pun intended) but Oprah has all of this money and still do not know where she fits in this society. She just did a special in Africa where I was station at and she prayed and called on God and it is even on her DVD…..but here it is a year or so later and some man comes on her show (ANTICHRIST MAN AT THAT) fills her head up with all of this crap and now she thinks that she meant to be a messenger. As many follwers as she has it is an insult to my Heavenly Father that MS. WINFREY and this ANTICHRIST MAN can even compare themselves or the knowledge there of to GOD. YES I AM A CHRISTIAN AND I BELIEVE IN GOD….THAT IS MY BELIEF AND I AM NOT TRYING TO CONVERT HERE….BUT WHAT OPRAH AND THIS ANTICHRIST MAN IS DOING IS SO FAR FETCH THAT EVEN THE UNBELIEVERS ARE APPALLED AND MAD. The reason why she is hitting it big with this (O RELIGION CRAP) is becuase she started cooing them (HER VIEWERS) in a long time ago and now she is the most popluar woman on this earth and I hate to say it but once you get the white folks vote and become the one that Mas-sa like it is a wrap. Oprah is from Mississippi and she was raised in a Baptist Churh….I guess money can BUY RELIGION TOO….but you do not have enough money in the world to by SALVATION…AMEN

]]> By: JOEY http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1302 JOEY Tue, 13 May 2008 12:36:46 +0000 http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1302 YOUR A DAUGHTER OF A MINISTER BUT PRACTICING PAGANISM? YOU'RE A SHAME!!!! THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO HEAVEN AND THAT IS THRU THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!! JESUS DIED FOR YOU.....YOU BETTER ASK YOUR FATHER, A PASTOR I KNOW HE COULD SHOW THE WAY!! YOUR A DAUGHTER OF A MINISTER BUT PRACTICING PAGANISM? YOU’RE A SHAME!!!! THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO HEAVEN AND THAT IS THRU THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!! JESUS DIED FOR YOU…..YOU BETTER ASK YOUR FATHER, A PASTOR I KNOW HE COULD SHOW THE WAY!!

]]> By: Joe Rinker http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1300 Joe Rinker Tue, 13 May 2008 00:10:35 +0000 http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1300 mommymonkey, I could not agree with you more but, most of the people here are religious by association. It is clear that this video is edited and slanted to make Oprah out as evil. It is nice to know that you see it for what it is. Peace be with you, mommymonkey, I could not agree with you more but, most of the people here are religious by association. It is clear that this video is edited and slanted to make Oprah out as evil. It is nice to know that you see it for what it is.

Peace be with you,

]]> By: oh plz http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1299 oh plz Mon, 12 May 2008 06:56:14 +0000 http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1299 Ooh please, you people are nothing more than a alot of mockers on one site. All of you posted your thoughts about it, like you were thinking that someone would over look their views to agree with yours. Please, the only good this site is doing; is get each of you to become more in tune with your personal views over others views. Oh, and for those people that ask for proof that god is 100% real, give me proof that he is not a 100% real. Truth is you can't; that why it called FAITH. you can't say one thing without the opposite being resolved as well. what a waste of time, this is......... give me a break Ooh please, you people are nothing more than a alot of mockers on one site. All of you posted your thoughts about it, like you were thinking that someone would over look their views to agree with yours. Please, the only good this site is doing; is get each of you to become more in tune with your personal views over others views. Oh, and for those people that ask for proof that god is 100% real, give me proof that he is not a 100% real. Truth is you can’t; that why it called FAITH. you can’t say one thing without the opposite being resolved as well. what a waste of time, this is……… give me a break

]]> By: MommyMonkey http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1294 MommyMonkey Mon, 05 May 2008 17:14:59 +0000 http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1294 This is ridiculous..... and pay attention to 5:07 and 5:15. Warning signs- really warning signs flash in between camera changes. Please pay no attention to this site. This is ridiculous….. and pay attention to 5:07 and 5:15. Warning signs- really warning signs flash in between camera changes. Please pay no attention to this site.

]]> By: Arron Archer http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1293 Arron Archer Fri, 02 May 2008 19:43:44 +0000 http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1293 Oprah Winfrey is a good person... She gives incredible amounts of her money and influence to make the world a better place. In watching her show on occasion, I have found her to be a caring, respectable woman. And as much as all of these qualities make her admirable, she is still wrong. I do not condemn Oprah. I whole-heartedly follow Christ and whole-heartedly support the freedoms of the United Sates in a liberal fashion. In that spirit of tolerance, I cannot force my ideology onto Oprah or anyone else. I can only submit that, in my study, experience, and faith, there is only one way to God... Jesus Christ. I understand that she and you may or may not agree with that finding. Personally, politically, socially, etc... that is absolutely alright. But you must also know that in my belief, those who do not claim Jesus Christ as their only means of acceptance by God separate themselves from the blessings of God. If you disagree with that assessment and if you do not find Christ to be the sacrifice that puts naturally flawed people back in the good graces of the perfect God, I will not condemn you. It is your right to believe whatever you want. I will not utilize or support the utilization of war, propaganda, guilt, etc... to make you buy into this ideology. The primary beauty of our flawed governmental system in these United States is that we live and let live. Whatever your race, nationality, and ethnicity, whatever your gender, whatever your education level, occupation, family history, crimes, political affiliation, etc... Whether you are homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual, or otherwise... Whether you believe that there is no God at all, that there is one God to whom there are many paths, that there are many different gods, that god is found within oneself, that God is an idea that people use to oppress others, etc... Whether you are for, against, or neutral on abortion, whether you think that euthanasia is mercy or murder, whether you are concerned with environmental issues or think that none of it really even matters... I ACCEPT YOU... My tolerance is not indifference. I want to see everyone come to the same conclusions about God and right that I have found. I want to see every person in my city, state, country, and world declare Jesus Christ as the solution to their problem of human imperfection and separation from God. ... But guilt will not do it. Coercion will not make that declaration. Fear cannot motivate that statement. Only true belief can. Perhaps my mind is closed... but I will always support the allowance of room for yours to remain open. If I shove you toward God, you'll only end up falling down just short of Him. However, if I stand in a safe, comfortable place with God and welcome you to find Him through Christ, you may decide to join me. I will not stand on a tree stump with a megaphone and condemn you to Hell if you don't stand with me. That will hardly attract anyone at all. I will not lasso you and wrestle you to God. I will not kick and drag and scream. I will stand... and you will know where I stand. God bless Oprah. Let her experience Him in a personal, life-changing way. May Christ find her exactly where she is and change her mind. God bless you... May you experience Him in a personal, life-changing way, whether you believe in Christ already or whether you have yet to take that step. And may God also bless me... Even though I am secure in His hand to Christ's credit, may I continue to encounter Him in a personal, life-changing way every day. And as I stand firm for everyone to see, may the passion, certainty, and life that I have in Christ be attractive to those who haven't yet accepted that He is the end of their search for God. Oprah Winfrey is a good person… She gives incredible amounts of her money and influence to make the world a better place. In watching her show on occasion, I have found her to be a caring, respectable woman. And as much as all of these qualities make her admirable, she is still wrong.

I do not condemn Oprah. I whole-heartedly follow Christ and whole-heartedly support the freedoms of the United Sates in a liberal fashion. In that spirit of tolerance, I cannot force my ideology onto Oprah or anyone else. I can only submit that, in my study, experience, and faith, there is only one way to God… Jesus Christ.

I understand that she and you may or may not agree with that finding. Personally, politically, socially, etc… that is absolutely alright. But you must also know that in my belief, those who do not claim Jesus Christ as their only means of acceptance by God separate themselves from the blessings of God.

If you disagree with that assessment and if you do not find Christ to be the sacrifice that puts naturally flawed people back in the good graces of the perfect God, I will not condemn you. It is your right to believe whatever you want. I will not utilize or support the utilization of war, propaganda, guilt, etc… to make you buy into this ideology.

The primary beauty of our flawed governmental system in these United States is that we live and let live. Whatever your race, nationality, and ethnicity, whatever your gender, whatever your education level, occupation, family history, crimes, political affiliation, etc… Whether you are homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual, or otherwise… Whether you believe that there is no God at all, that there is one God to whom there are many paths, that there are many different gods, that god is found within oneself, that God is an idea that people use to oppress others, etc… Whether you are for, against, or neutral on abortion, whether you think that euthanasia is mercy or murder, whether you are concerned with environmental issues or think that none of it really even matters…

I ACCEPT YOU…

My tolerance is not indifference. I want to see everyone come to the same conclusions about God and right that I have found. I want to see every person in my city, state, country, and world declare Jesus Christ as the solution to their problem of human imperfection and separation from God.

… But guilt will not do it. Coercion will not make that declaration. Fear cannot motivate that statement. Only true belief can.

Perhaps my mind is closed… but I will always support the allowance of room for yours to remain open. If I shove you toward God, you’ll only end up falling down just short of Him. However, if I stand in a safe, comfortable place with God and welcome you to find Him through Christ, you may decide to join me.

I will not stand on a tree stump with a megaphone and condemn you to Hell if you don’t stand with me. That will hardly attract anyone at all. I will not lasso you and wrestle you to God. I will not kick and drag and scream. I will stand… and you will know where I stand.

God bless Oprah. Let her experience Him in a personal, life-changing way. May Christ find her exactly where she is and change her mind. God bless you… May you experience Him in a personal, life-changing way, whether you believe in Christ already or whether you have yet to take that step. And may God also bless me… Even though I am secure in His hand to Christ’s credit, may I continue to encounter Him in a personal, life-changing way every day. And as I stand firm for everyone to see, may the passion, certainty, and life that I have in Christ be attractive to those who haven’t yet accepted that He is the end of their search for God.

]]> By: LB http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1292 LB Fri, 02 May 2008 17:18:10 +0000 http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1292 You all make really good points, well most of you, but the fact remains that the best witness to unbelievers is a life that shows what you believe. Too many of us are wasting words telling people how they should live when we ourselves (myself included) don't live the life that we preach to others. There are enough Christians leading double lives (ie. churching on Sunday's right after the club on Saturday) to prove to unbelievers that we don't value our own God above sin so why should they believe in something we don't believe in enough to give up deliberately sinnin for and elevate above our own mess. Oprah does need prayer (so do I), but she also needs Christians that are not only bold enough to tell her the right way to go, but show her the love of Christ. Yes God is love and allows us to choose or reject him, but he also turned over the tables when merchants turned the temple into a mall (John 2:14-16) and said that he did not come to bring peace, but a sword (Matt. 10:34) Witnessing, preaching, and evangelizing is right and what God told us to do (Matt. 28:19 make disciples in every nation), but we have not started with our own nation AND we have not even begun to love each other with brotherly love (Rom. 12:10). Let's work on ourselvs at the same time we are witnessing and really SHOW the World What Jesus' love is all about. By the way John post #26: Jesus did die and he rose again with all power. You all make really good points, well most of you, but the fact remains that the best witness to unbelievers is a life that shows what you believe. Too many of us are wasting words telling people how they should live when we ourselves (myself included) don’t live the life that we preach to others. There are enough Christians leading double lives (ie. churching on Sunday’s right after the club on Saturday) to prove to unbelievers that we don’t value our own God above sin so why should they believe in something we don’t believe in enough to give up deliberately sinnin for and elevate above our own mess. Oprah does need prayer (so do I), but she also needs Christians that are not only bold enough to tell her the right way to go, but show her the love of Christ. Yes God is love and allows us to choose or reject him, but he also turned over the tables when merchants turned the temple into a mall (John 2:14-16) and said that he did not come to bring peace, but a sword (Matt. 10:34) Witnessing, preaching, and evangelizing is right and what God told us to do (Matt. 28:19 make disciples in every nation), but we have not started with our own nation AND we have not even begun to love each other with brotherly love (Rom. 12:10). Let’s work on ourselvs at the same time we are witnessing and really SHOW the World What Jesus’ love is all about.

By the way John post #26: Jesus did die and he rose again with all power.

]]> By: Jenn http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1291 Jenn Fri, 02 May 2008 17:00:56 +0000 http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1291 If Oprah is opening the eyes to people to better themselves then that is good. I just hope people realize that they are to worship God not Oprah. The only way is through Jesus Christ. If others don't believe that is truly up to them, but I do!! I don't judge others for not believing and I just want the same in return. In these last days there will be false preaching we just need to find the correct path and follow it and not be tempted down the wrong path. And who ever said the largest church was Oprah's is an idiot. The Catholic church is the largest. If Oprah is opening the eyes to people to better themselves then that is good. I just hope people realize that they are to worship God not Oprah. The only way is through Jesus Christ. If others don’t believe that is truly up to them, but I do!! I don’t judge others for not believing and I just want the same in return. In these last days there will be false preaching we just need to find the correct path and follow it and not be tempted down the wrong path. And who ever said the largest church was Oprah’s is an idiot. The Catholic church is the largest.

]]> By: Be-Loved Karen http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1290 Be-Loved Karen Fri, 02 May 2008 14:20:56 +0000 http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1290 I am a spiritual being IN - JOY - ING this earthly human experience and this blog FEELS very, very DARK. YUK !!! I am a spiritual being IN – JOY – ING this earthly human experience and this blog FEELS very, very DARK. YUK !!!

]]> By: Be-Loved Karen http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1289 Be-Loved Karen Fri, 02 May 2008 14:13:31 +0000 http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1289 Wait a moment, here...What religion is God? Wait a moment, here…What religion is God?

]]> By: Barb http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1288 Barb Fri, 02 May 2008 11:52:21 +0000 http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1288 The born-again believers are right on target, as far as salvation and what the Bible(God's Holy, infallible Word) says about it. I'd like to comment on 4 things. 1. I don't watch Oprah. 2. I didn't know anything about any of this yesterday. 3. As with many world 'religions', 'belief systems', or whatever you call them.. the rank and file, true believers aren't writing here. They are out there being obedient and whatever that entails (philanthropy,evangelism, and taking care of business) not taking 'pot-shots' at Oprah or anyone else. 4. I don't post anywhere generally.. my last comment: Heaven and Hell are real places and we have only to ask ourselves this question. You'll be dead a lot longer than you will be alive.. Where do you want to spend eternity? The born-again believers are right on target, as far as salvation and what the Bible(God’s Holy, infallible Word) says about it. I’d like to comment on 4 things.
1. I don’t watch Oprah.
2. I didn’t know anything about any of this yesterday.
3. As with many world ‘religions’, ‘belief systems’, or whatever you call them.. the rank and file, true believers aren’t writing here. They are out there being obedient and whatever that entails (philanthropy,evangelism, and taking care of business) not taking ‘pot-shots’ at Oprah or anyone else.
4. I don’t post anywhere generally.. my last comment: Heaven and Hell are real places and we have only to ask ourselves this question.
You’ll be dead a lot longer than you will be alive.. Where do you want to spend eternity?

]]> By: isaiah http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1287 isaiah Thu, 01 May 2008 04:06:41 +0000 http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1287 It is just sad that she would even utter such blasphemy.Iam not a fun of hers and i detest her even more now after.my people get lost because of the luck of knowledge.Wake up people.The wisdom of man is the foolishness of God.We cannot even begin to comprehend the magnitude of his majesty with our mere knowhow. Oprah should just shut up and stick to her talk show for her own good and that of her blind followers.What is this world coming to,God help us all. It is just sad that she would even utter such blasphemy.Iam not a fun of hers and i detest her even more now after.my people get lost because of the luck of knowledge.Wake up people.The wisdom of man is the foolishness of God.We cannot even begin to comprehend the magnitude of his majesty with our mere knowhow.
Oprah should just shut up and stick to her talk show for her own good and that of her blind followers.What is this world coming to,God help us all.

]]> By: shantel http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1284 shantel Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:12:46 +0000 http://heartofflesh.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/the-church-of-oprah-exposed/#comment-1284 why would god be jealous of her seeing that he made everything that she has? The devil has greatly decieved her. the devil is incredibly evil, he knows his fate is t go back to hell in the end. Therefore he wants to bring as many people with him down to live with him and his demons. why would god be jealous of her seeing that he made everything that she has? The devil has greatly decieved her. the devil is incredibly evil, he knows his fate is t go back to hell in the end. Therefore he wants to bring as many people with him down to live with him and his demons.

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